Vicky Horgan & Emma Walton

Vicky Horgan (27) & Emma Walton (25)
   Vicky Horgan & Emma Walton (6 June 2004)

Vicky (27) and her sister Emma (25) were shot at a family barbeque by Vicky’s estranged husband, Stuart Horgan, who had a history of domestic violence that had been reported to the police. Vicky & Emma’s mother, Jacqueline, was seriously injured during the rampage and survived. Vicky leaves behind two daughters.

Several weeks after the murders, Stuart Horgan committed suicide whilst on remand in HMP Woodhill, Buckinghamshire.

From the BBC (12 Jun 2004):

FAMILY’S ANGUISH ON BBQ KILLINGS

The father of two sisters shot dead during a family barbecue has spoken of the family’s grief over the tragedy. Vicky Horgan, 27, and Emma Walton, 25, from Berkshire, were killed on Sunday at Ms Horgan’s Highmoor Cross home. The women were “much loved by family and friends and brought joy into many people’s lives”, Simon Walton said. The rest of the family were praying for the recovery of the women’s mother, Jacqueline, who remains in a coma after she was also shot, he added.

“My two daughters, Vicky and Emma, have had their lives taken away from them. “Vicky was a fun-loving and vibrant person who lived for her two young children. “She enjoyed her job at a special needs school and was extremely good with children. “Emma was very independent and had a good circle of friends who will miss her deeply.” Very close He said he was now concerned for his grandchildren. “There are two little girls who have lost their mummy and auntie and have been through a horrific ordeal that nobody should have to go through.” The sisters were very close and supported each other in times of need, he said. “Vicky and Emma’s mum Jacqui, was my wife for more than 20 years. I wish her a full recovery.” Ms Horgan’s estranged husband, Stuart, has been charged with murdering the pair at the Oxfordshire home.

From the BBC (14 Aug 2004):

FUNERAL HELD FOR MURDERED SISTERS

Friends and family have said their final farewells at the funeral of two sisters shot dead at a barbecue. Vicky Horgan, 27, and her sister Emma Walton, 25, were killed by Ms Horgan’s husband Stuart, 39, in Highmoor Cross, Oxfordshire, on 6 June. Their mother Jacqueline Walton, 55, was also badly hurt and left hospital for the first time for the funeral.

Two hundred mourners gathered on Saturday at St John the Baptist Church in Kidmore End near Reading, Berkshire.

Mr Horgan killed his wife and her sister with a single-barrelled shotgun. Two weeks later, he was killed himself with a dismantled disposable razor while on remand at HMP Woodhill in Buckinghamshire. Police later revealed the unemployed bricklayer had a history of violence against his wife, who was a learning assistant at a local special school.

Ms Horgan’s daughters, Jade, seven, and Bobbie, three witnessed their mother’s murder. Since the tragedy, neighbours have raised thousands of pounds for the children, with events including a sponsored bike ride from Hamburg in Germany to Oxfordshire.

A Walton family statement released ahead of the funeral thanked the community for its support. “The family of Jade and Bobbie, Vicky’s children, would like to take this opportunity of thanking all the residents of Highmoor, surrounding areas and those who do not live in the local community for their generosity in giving to the children’s fund. “They would also like to thank all those who were so generous in the laying of flowers and sending cards in memory of Vicky and Emma. All these contributions and acts of kindness have meant a great deal to the family and have been gratefully received.”

The Guardian (07 Oct 2004):

POLICE APOLOGISE FOR MURDER SCENE DELAY
Rosie Cowan, crime correspondent

Police were castigated yesterday for delaying more than an hour before attending an incident where a man shot dead his estranged wife and her sister and seriously injured their mother. All three lay wounded while frantic neighbours tried to give them first aid.

Vicky Horgan, 27, died shortly after a drunken Stuart Horgan, 39, shot her in the head with a .410 shotgun after bursting in on a barbecue at her home in Highmoor Cross, near Henley-on-Thames, in Oxfordshire, on June 6. Her 25-year-old sister, Emma Walton, was shot in the back and died later in hospital. Their mother was in a coma for two weeks but survived.

But despite numerous 999 calls from neighbours, one of whom demanding police and ambulance response more than 50 times while giving a 70-minute running commentary on the horrific scene, armed officers did not arrive for 64 minutes after the first 999 call. It was 87 minutes before paramedics, awaiting police assurance it was safe, attended the wounded, even though it was fairly certain the gunman had fled in the first 22 minutes.

A Home Office pathologist said Vicky Horgan would not have lived, and it was “highly unlikely” Ms Walton would have survived even if she had received immediate medical attention. But he conceded that had a specialist been available there was the “slimmest of possibilities that Ms Walton’s life could have been saved.”

An internal review of the Thames Valley force’s role, overseen by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, said there was no justification for the delay, and criticised a catalogue of failure. These included poor decision-making, delay in passing command of the situation to a specialist firearms officer, confusion in the control room and over the emergency services’ rendezvous point.

Peter Neyroud, Thames Valley chief constable, apologised to the victims’ family and local people, and he paid tribute to neighbours, Roy and Georgina Gibson, who called the police and nursed the victims. Vicky Horgan died in Mrs Gibson’s arms, and it was a letter from a furious Mr Gibson which sparked the police inquiry.

He said: “We could have and should have been faster to the scene to protect the wounded and the public of Highmoor Cross. I regret very much the distress which the additional delay caused to the victims and witnesses.”

But Mr Neyroud and Detective Superintendent Mick Tighe, author of the review, said no individual officer was to blame. Instead, they claimed the fiasco was due to failings in training and national policy, which emphasises locating the perpetrator rather than getting to the victims. “The weaknesses identified … are fundamental issues for Thames Valley police and possibly the police service nationally.”

Mr Neyroud admitted police had been overcautious, but said this stemmed from criticism of past incidents where armed officers had shot members of the public. He outlined measures he is putting in place to ensure this never happens again.

Although Horgan, who had a history of domestic violence, was quickly flagged up as a suspect, police held back, fearing, Mr Neyroud said, another Hungerford, the Berkshire town where the gunman Michael Ryan shot dead 16 people and injured 14 before killing himself in 1987. Even when Mr Gibson assured them Horgan had left, they still refused to move in. And they might have delayed even longer had a plainclothes detective, acting on his own initiative, not stopped on his way to work and radioed to colleagues that the gunman was gone.

Horgan was arrested the next day, 100 miles away in Peterborough, Cambridgeshire. On June 20 he killed himself by slashing his throat while on remand in Woodhill prison, Milton Keynes, four days after being taken off suicide watch.

Yesterday, Mr Gibson, 70, and his wife, Georgina, 58, packing up to leave their home, said they could not bear to stay. Mr Gibson, who demanded a personal explanation from the Thames Valley chief constable in his letter, said he was satisfied police had admitted their mistakes. “We have seen the report and police have not tried to cover anything up,” he said yesterday. Of the day of the murders, he remembered: “My wife was cradling Vicky, telling her help was on its way. But it wasn’t. She died 45 minutes after we got to her.”

How time was lost
Sunday, June 6, 2004 4.35pm Stuart Horgan climbs over garden fence of house in Highmoor Cross, Oxfordshire, where estranged wife, Vicky Horgan, is having a barbecue. Shoots Vicky’s mother in the stomach, her sister, Emma Walton, in the back, and Vicky in the head. Leaves quickly but exact time unclear

4.37pm Thames Valley police receive first 999 call, from neighbour, Dawn Clarke. Stuart Horgan identified as probable perpetrator. Neighbours Roy Gibson, armed with a piece of wood, and his wife, Georgina, try to give first aid to victims

4.39pm Police control room inspector orders no officer attend the scene. Ambulance service contacted but cannot move in without armed escort. In next few minutes, armed response vehicles alerted and force helicopter dispatched

4.59pm 22 minutes after initial report, it is fairly certain Horgan is no longer in the vicinity

5.04pm Tactical firearms adviser contacted. Henley police station, four miles from house, nominated as emergency services’ rendezvous point

5.05pm First ambulance crew go to the wrong place, old Henley police station, so rendezvous point switched to Emmer Green, five miles from house, but eight miles from first rendezvous point

5.15pm A detective sergeant goes to the house on his own initiative, ascertains offender not present, speeding up deployment of armed officers, but delay due to switch of rendezvous points

5.41pm Armed police enter house 64 minutes after first 999 call, and request ambulance crew

5.45pm Crew refuse as police cannot confirm offender located and area safe

6.04pm Paramedics enter, 87 minutes after initial alert, having received escort and clear assurances from police

The Guardian (22 Feb 2006):

MOTHER WHO SURVIVED BARBECUE KILLINGS CRITICISES POLICE TACTICS
Steven Morris

The mother of two daughters who were shot dead at a family barbecue criticised the emergency services yesterday for not reaching the women until more than an hour after the attack.

Police held back because of fears that the gunman, the estranged husband of one of the women, could still be close by.

Jacqueline Bailey, whose daughters Vicky Horgan and Emma Walton died and who was shot in the stomach herself, told an inquest into the deaths of the two women: “The fact that three of us were left in our blood for all that length of time … it is worse than you would treat an animal.” A pathologist told the inquest at Oxford there was “the slimmest possibility” that Ms Walton could have lived if she had received treatment sooner, but that Mrs Horgan could not have been saved.

But a neighbour who went to help the women as emergency workers continued to hold back said Ms Walton had not lost consciousness as she waited for the paramedics and Mrs Horgan lived for 45 minutes after the shooting.

Mrs Horgan, 27, and her sister, Ms Walton, 25, were hit with a shotgun in front of the Horgans’ two young daughters by bricklayer Stuart Horgan at the family home at Henley in June 2004. Horgan, 39, killed himself in prison after being charged over the murders.

Mrs Bailey, 55, told the inquest that Horgan had opened fire as he clambered over a fence. She said: “I turned around and I saw Stuart Horgan. The next thing I remember was a burning sensation in my stomach and a feeling of all my stomach contents coming out and falling to the ground.” She broke down as she described how Ms Walton cried out, “Mum, mum, mum” as she lay bleeding. “I said: ‘Hold on, Em, hold on.’ I was conscious of the delay and I was thinking, ‘Why isn’t anyone coming to help?’ ”

A neighbour, Georgina Gibson, said that despite her pleas, ambulance crews would not treat the three victims until they were given the all-clear by police. She said: “I ran down to get into the back garden when I saw Vicky. I started using clean washing to pad out the wounds.” She said Mrs Horgan lived for about 45 minutes while her sister never lost consciousness as she waited for help.

Paramedic Colin Knight said he was called at 4.40pm but police had not considered it safe for him and other emergency medical crews to enter the house until after 6pm. Pathologist Robert Chapman said Mrs Horgan had been shot in the head at very close range. Ms Walton, who died in hospital, had received a single gunshot wound in her back which had caused severe damage to her liver. He said there was “only the slimmest possibility” she could have been saved.

An internal review of the Thames Valley force’s role, overseen by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, concluded the delay was down to failings in training and national policy, which emphasises locating the perpetrator rather than getting to the victims.

The inquest also heard that Mrs Horgan, 27, had been hit, slapped and burned with a cigarette by her husband. On one occasion he hit her head against a brick wall. Shortly before the tragedy Mrs Horgan had had the fence at her home made higher because she was frightened of her husband. The inquest continues.

See also the Draft Review from the IPCC.

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35 Responses to “Vicky Horgan & Emma Walton”

  1. beejaykk Says:

    my heart goes out to the sisters family, god bless them. Its so unfair that he took their lives. A very troubled man.

  2. 01hewerv Says:

    I Just Read The Book By Stuarts Sister Jayne And My Heart Goes Out Not Only To The Two Young Ladies Who Lost Their Life But Also To Stuart Altho He Killed 2 People You Ppl Can Never Understand Why Untill U Know The Whole Story…Like I Do After Reading The Book People Think Hes A Wicked Horrid Man But To Me I Think Of Him More As Loving And Caring With Problems That Noone Apart From His Sister Would Understand! Mayy He And The Two Ladys Rest In Peace. x

  3. stormy Says:

    01hewerv, Stuart Horgan deserves no sympathy nor understanding. His revenge on his ex-wife (and ultimately his own daughters) was pre-meditated. Horgan’s hatred was also directed at Vicky’s sister and mother specifically, showing his underlying attitude towards women.

    If Horgan’s sister has written a book (I could not find this book you have mentioned) then she should wake up and realise the attitudes Horgan had towards women, and be grateful that he is at least not around to damage her neices’ lives any further than he has already.

    Sympathetic attitudes towards the killers in domestic violence will do nothing to stop future murders. Only public condemnation of their actions so others do not follow.

    Vicky Horgan left Horgan because of his violence towards her. If Horgan was upset because of her departure, then he could have ceased the abuse and gotten into a domestic abusers’ programme. Instead, he chose revenge and murder.

    The book you should read is Lundy Bancroft’s Why does he do that?. Bancroft has been a therapist treating abusive men for many decades.

  4. darlingmaid Says:

    Vicky was my friend and the day I heard she had been killed I cried for a very long time.
    Stuart Horgan shouldnt of killed himself, she should be still here, suffering for what he did. Yes he was ill but he knew what he was doing. He was a very nasty man. I will never forgive him for taking my beautiful friend away.
    The book Jayne Sterne wrote is quite an eye opener, but there is a lot she left out. If she put everything in the book, like realnames, that book would of been a best seller.

    Your so right thou, Stuart deseves no symphathy and why should he rest in peace.

    Not long ago his dad died and on message was sent to Jayne on a different site saying ‘rest in peace your with Stuart now’. That must of been a joke because the old man detested Stuart, and even more so because he killed 2 beautiful women.
    Jayne Also has photos of Stuart on this certain site and people are leaving comments like ‘ what a shame he killed himself and R.I.P Stuart your with the angels now’ But no one will say anything about my darling friend.

    If people really knew stuart Horgan, they would never treat him like an icon.

    Stuart did have anger management, for quite a long time. But look what happened.

    I think of Vicky everyday and I miss her so much. I have a lovely photo of her and her children in my front room and every day I look at it and give her a wave.

    With Stuart, Id spit on his grave if he had one.

    • angels2189 Says:

      Vicky was a friend of mine even after 10 years not a day goes by where I don’t think of her anyone who knew her will never forget the fun loving beautiful lady she was and still to this day I want to ask stuart why he done what he did but he took the easy way out instead of facing up to what he did may my beautiful friend and Emma RIP these ladies will never be forgotten

  5. tinyjayne Says:

    I Wasn’t going to leave a comment, but felt perhaps I should as Im the sister of Stuart Horgan.
    Regards the 3rd comment, on waking up to what Stuart done, I woke up a long time before Stuart committed this crime. Vicky was so very special to me and although I wasn’t close to Emma be rest assured what my brother did was despicable, cruel and selfish.
    I myself was telling Vicky to walk away from the relationship.
    Yes i have wrote a book, and it does not glorify Stuart’s actions at all and never would, any person that feels they have a right to harm another person is wrong, to take a persons life, well common sense tells you its wicked beyond a normal persons understanding.
    The question you will most likely ask is what are my feelings on him, well, I will never understand how anyone can do what he did, i don’t think anyone could, do I still love him yes I do, my families loss is huge as I miss Vicky every day, as well as Stuart. I think if only i could of done something to stop what happened, the what ifs will most likely be with me for the rest of my days. I’m sorry that he hurt so many people, and the suffering he has caused to Vicky and Emma’s family. Im sorry to my children for all they have gone through since.
    My advice to anyone going through domestic violence is, get out make yourself safe, love holds no conditions and it doesn’t seek to destroy.
    My story is based on our childhood and also my relationship with both Vicky and Stuart, it gives no reasons to justify his actions, because there are none. As for my father yes he did sadly pass December 2008 and was a broken man after Stuart’s crime and he was never the same again.
    I hope my story helps those going through violence to see you cant help those that wont help themselves, Vicky was the sweetest person you could ever wish to meet, and there is no doubting they loved one another, but there relationship was volatile and in my opinion dangerous, and that became reality on the 6.6.04. Although Stuart took his life, the pain for all those close to Vicky & Emma and also Stuart remains with us.
    Please anyone going through Domestic violence, get out and get help, if your thinking awww he would never hurt me like that, Vicky thought the same no matter how much we told her different, now we will no longer have her radiant smile and her cheering laughter and warm presence around us………..
    Jayne Sterne

    • almargee Says:

      Hi Jayne. I have almost finished reading your book and now have read your answer to your brother, Sean.
      All through your story I had wondered why your parents allowed (Graham) to babysit you and your sister. How they overlooked the marks from beatings which must have shown. Why they heard nothing when he beat you and hung you from your bedroom window. Why you never told them or anyone else.
      Now I think I understand why. There was no Graham. It was your own brother, Sean.
      Bless you for surviving and becoming a good mum to your children.

    • sallie2 Says:

      Jayne,
      Be sure that I believe every bit of your story obviously I do know there are some little changes like names maybe even places, but thats not what your story is all about so that doesn’t really matter. YOU ARE A TRUE INSPIRATION. How could you have endured all this at such young age? Be aware jayne, that god gives and takes; He gave you the unconditional Love of your brother Stuart, but you also had an abnormal abuser with sexual needs.
      I was exceedingly SHOCKED when i found the true identity of your abuser. I have so much to say about him, but i dont think i have the right to. So heartless, these things are so rare its almost impossible to believe. We share the same feelings towards your abuser Jayne, though yours may be stronger, but i also hate and pitty him.
      You’ve mentioned in you book that you feel guilty for what Stuart has done. Guilt is in all humans nature ( except for those people like your abuser who seems to be so proud of himself, For what? I have no idea) You shouldn’t be becuase this is entirly not your fault Jayne, and im sure you know that aswel as I do. I will confess thoguh for the first time after reading your book 3 times that I also feel guilty. I feel guilty that you had to suffer all on your own at such young age and kept the secret to your self for many years and couldn’t find someone you could have told. I feel guilty because I never appreciated what I had i thought i was living an abnormal life but when you see others problems you really appreciate what you have. We humans are very greedy creatures we never look at whats worst but always at the best.
      There will be many critisim Jayne, and what everyone thinks about what happened. Theres this thing my mother always tells me: If you try to satisfy other people then you will never satisfy yourself, then you will never live. So these comments are just ideas of what people think and many dont know the true story of what exactly happened, even me, not as much as you do. You know the turth Jayne so whatever people say you need to ignore because they haven’t heard the rest of the story yet.
      Alwasy be Optimistic . Never give up no matter how impossible the situation is. Always remember that Impossible IS Impossibe, theres no such thing as impossible in this world everything happens.
      As you mentioned above that ‘the what ifs’ will never end..The If conditional, the if only, the wishes and regrets these will keep going in your mind but they are just matter of words and sentences that will not change a thing in what happened. The Future is infront of you Jayne, the past is just the old creases of a folded paper that’s been unfolded and the people who unfolded you are the people you love so much ( Family, Stu and Vicky).
      Stuart might have commited a homicide, he might have been an abuser, but i think that that was just a call for help. He needed someone to help him defeat the demans who controlled him. He Murdered two innocent girls who shouldnt have died so early and he deserved what he must have had ( prosecution), If he hadn’t killed himself he might have had a second chance in life.

      I aim to help people like you in the futur as im only 16. My heart goes out to you, your family and Vicky’s.
      So sorry this had to happen, but in the end its fate.
      I have loads more to say but that’ll do.
      Lots of love…

  6. seanieboy06 Says:

    Regarding the comments about my brother Stuart Horgan. What Stuart did was a dispicable act, and unforgiveable- and I for one wouldnt offer any sympathy towards him. We were brought up in a “normal loving family”. How anyone can think that my sisters book(jayne sterne) explains why stuart turned out the way he did is beyond me. The book is a total fabrication of our upbringing. We certainly didnt live in “war torn northeren ireland, with bombs going off in our street”. Nothing could have prepared any of us for what Stu did. As someone has already mentioned, my dad detested Stuart.. I dont think he did detest him.. I think he was more frightened of what Stuart had become-well Stuart detested Jayne!! He certainly never confided such things to her as mentioned in her book. The harsh reality of this situation is that it tore us apart as a family. The loving relationship between them (Jayne and Stu) simply did not exist. Sad how even out of such horrific circumstances someone can capitalise out of the events. Some things are best left unsaid… the book by Jayne Sterne was one of them. I am Sean Brian Horgan..the eldest of four Horgan children, and very proud of my name. I loved Stu as my brother, but my heart goes out to Vicky’s family.. in fact to everyone affected by this terrible tragedy.It will haunt us for the rest of our lives- ALL of us!

    • smallze12 Says:

      Firstly someone of your caliber and character should not pass judgement on anybody, thats if you really were smart enough to put a paragraph of rubbish together. I would just be hugely grateful if i were you, that only a select few people know that actually you are the worst kind of scum and remember its never too late to change your life or someone elses. I’m the first to say i cannot condone nor excuse what happened that day, it was wrong and most difinately unjust, but don’t use it to score brownie points.
      You were and still are detested very much maybe you should bare that in mind before speaking on other peoples behalf and can you honestly speak for grandad (did he like you?, or even talk to you?)
      your bitterness is quite ironic considering you and uncle stuart had alot of similarities when it came to violent behaviour. how is ur wife?
      I must admit i wasn’t shocked that in your opinion your childhood was normal because you seem to think what YOU’VE done and who YOU are is normal.
      My mother who for the record 110% was not detested by her brother, has ensured that we have had a decent and normal upbringing and is more than capable and qualified to differenciate between normal and abnoramal relationships in families due to years of experience and training working with victims of domestic violence, can you say the same?. Based on that, basic common sense and decency it’s obvious your childhood was far from normal.
      I don’t like having to even write to you so make it easy on yourself because if you continue to try and make ripples in water where there’s calm your gonna catch a tide!!

    • darlingmaid Says:

      I apologise for what I said about your old man detesting Stuart, I got that totaly wrong. It was you he detested for what you did. Dont deny it because I was there when it all came out about you, I remember you kept on phoning Stuart and he would just ignore your calls and when he did finaly answer he called you a nonce.
      (I remember that day as if it was yesterday)
      Whats the matter with you, were you jealous of how close Stuart and Jayne were. You talk crap about saying how they wernt close. They had a lovely proper brother and sister realastionship. How sibblings were supose to act, but you wouldnt know that would you because you treated your sibblings in a different way.
      You looked up to Stuart like a stupid little puppy dog. You thought because he could treat woman the way he did you could do the same. You was/are nothing but a joke.
      That awful day we all lost Vicky is your fault because he was really coming for you and because he couldnt find you and he wanted to see Vicky that day and she said no, just topped him over the egde. If he had got you first, then my beautiful friend would still be here with her children today.
      I blame you for that tragic day.
      Jayne told the truth in that book but had to change somethings for legal reasons.
      Why dont you tell the truth for once and tell people what your really like. If you have nothing to hide and your man enough, lets hear what the Great Sean Brian Horgan and really got to say for him self.

      • seanieboy06 Says:

        Well now that you mention it..Sean Brian Horgan has plenty to say for himself..just not got enough space on this site.Firstly how the hell can Stuart have been looking for me I lived in Pontefract at the time..and then ..why the hell would he be looking for me? You are more stupid than I thought. In the end Stu did’nt believe your allegations of abuse….neither did the police..why not take me to court..why not press charges..even your own mother doesnt believe you..even now! Why choose to argue on a public website..why not do it face to face..or at least by letter or telephone..You know why…its just your stupid little games.. you know I have done nothing wrong.. i f I have..BRING IT ON.. make waves in calm waters ..as you would say. As for my dad hating me..why then would he be drinking with me two weeks before he died?You stated in your reply that I am a “nonce” I really do hope you can provide evidence of this.. I am visiting North Yorks police first thing tomorrow morning.. lets get this sorted once and for all..no point in dragging it on any longer.for all our sakes. my e-mail address …if you would like to continue this argument in person is..suziandsean@hotmail.co.uk..let the games begin

      • suzih58 Says:

        I am the wife of Sean Horgan who’s brother Stuart Horgan.. comitted the horrendous “bbq killings”. I have sat back and read the various replies on this subject.. I met Sean quite soon after the events, so I suppose I really shouldnt comment on them..I can only relate the effects after the events. Once married into the Horgan family I was told by an immediate family member -and I quote-“welcome to the most dis-functional family on the planet”..wow how true that is.My husband is a “normal hardworking” guy..likes a drink to say the least..but not a problem. He is not violent in any way shape or form, and has not been in in the last 4 and a half years. He constantly seeks his mothers love and approval..why I dont know. His sisters continuosly accuse him of sexual abuse….but never carry it through..he has even gone to the police himself to clear his name..his sisters retract their accusations. All Sean wants to do is get on with his life..he has dealt with the terrible things Stuart did..and has moved on. Although he has no dealings with his siblings…that suits him fine. He is sad at the loss of his father quite recently..although he did build bridges with his dad only a matter of 3 weeks before his father died. Now to the crux of your reply.. “darlingmaid”..how the hell you can say you “blame Sean for that tragic day”.. are you dillusional..or maybe drung addled at all? How the hell can you say such a stupid thing? I suggest you look closer to home for any failings in the friendship with Stuart. The truth will out, you naive gullible little fools… and as for the wave that will hit the calm.. I suggest you get a wet suit and surf board. I’m sure if you would like to continue this debate you will contact me, Suzi Horgan at any time. We all get older, wiser..and even mellow with time..why won’t you let Sean do this? If he truly is such a bad person.. confront him, deal with it and move on..am sure you will know how to do this Jayne.

    • sallie2 Says:

      You abused Jayne I think its quite hard to believe your story over hers..

      • alycejane88 Says:

        bahahaha seans wife did he make u listen to ” ALMOST HUMAN” and piss on you and do sick crap like that ur a bigger weirdo for believeing such a sicko

  7. stormy Says:

    Although I have not read Ms Sterne’s book, I would recommend that both of you read Lundy Bancroft’s Why does he do that?

    (Stuart) Horgan’s attitudes are rooted in society and possibly upbringing (frequently passed from father to son). These are fundamentally feminist issues, and for someone such as myself, it is clear why Horgan did what he did, and to whom.

    He shot his ex-wife Vicky Horgan due to revenge for ‘daring’ to leave him (this indicates he considered his ex-wife less than an equal person, and more of an extension of himself or less than himself). He shot Vicky’s sister and mother because they were her support network (and he perceived that they had plotted her against him), which was another act of revenge on Horgan’s part. The second act (and indeed the first) shows a clear attitude towards women that ‘dare’ defy the ‘authority’ of man, and should be punished or dealt with. The age gap between Horgan and Vicky is not unnoticed and is frequently an indicator of authoritarian husbands.

    Sean and Jayne, I recommend that you both do a lot of reading and research from reputable sources, and get yourselves involved in working to raise awareness of domestic violence and its causes, just as Frank Mullane, brother of Julia Pemberton has done.

  8. mandyeva Says:

    i cant believe you sean i dont no any of you but have just finished reading jaynes book which is amazing its a brilliant but sad book. I can’t believe you are just attacking her i believe her words as why would anyone make up something like that? jayne if you read this could you send a message to my email sex_kitten_2k42k4@hotmail.com please i would really enjoy talking to you.

  9. sidneymcvicious Says:

    i just stumbled on this blog. i knew stuart and jayne very well as a kid. i was terrified of stuart, but became a close friend of his. i witnessed and was also involved in several violent acts with stuart as young men. we would fight anyone, for the adrenilin rush. but stuart held an anger and violence which was way beyond what was even considered within our gang. he relished and loved it. the violence was even directed to his friends. his jealousy and insecurity was very deep. i often wondered what made him so psychotic. i didnt understand back then about sexual abuse and things. many of us kids on that estate suffered degrees of child abuse, which drew us together. we may never know the real truth behind why stuart was fighting teachers at 12 yrs old. why he would attack anyone, big or small for any excuse. he loved the violence, but he also found himself trapped in its world. he was hero worshipped by idiots, encouraged by fools until he ultimately killed people. i never witnessed him being violent to women, my sisters stayed friends with him, and i never felt worried to have him around them. i imagined he could or would kill a man at some point, but was very shocked when i heard the news of what he did. i felt guilt, although i had not seen him in over 10 yrs, part of me wished i had met him earlier that day, maybe i could have stopped what happened. but if we look for blame. we must look at all of it. the parents who had such a violent messed up kid. the police for not realising. the teachers for not acting. local authorities that allowed a 12 yr old boy to wander the streets. the courts for jailing, not jailing. and above all our society and social system that allowed a child to become a monster. i knew at 17 yrs old that stuart was well capable of killing, so why didnt the authorities, why didnt the social services or his parents. why did the sexual and physical abuse be left to happen. i didnt know about it back then, but since this happened so many things fit into place. i saw stuart cry over girls he loved, i saw him cry over beating friends he loved. but i also saw the viciousness as he stamped other mens heads into the ground. we are all to blame for these people as a society, which even today is cursing the hoodies, the drug culture, (just like they called us skinhead thugs, hooligans). the violence in our towns without addressing the cause, look at that kid with an attitude, he could be the next stuart horgan. should we kill, jail, hurt or try and understand that boy before its too late?

    i wont put my name on here, but what i say is the truth, and my heart breaks everytime i think of the women killed, the ruined lives, his sisters, but above all his children left behind. and the pain i know he must have felt. when he did this , my heart was torn, i wanted to go see him in jail to try to understand, many of the old crew were angry at him, but i was sad, and confused, part of me angry, horrified. to imagine what scum sold him a gun, i wanted to tell him that he has a friend, i was horrified about what he did. i have kids of my own who i prey to god never have to witness any form of violence. if there is a god, then maybe he can sit stuart down and speak to him, just like somebody should have done many yrs ago.

  10. sidneymcvicious Says:

    ps i have read jaynes book and i really dont think any of it is a lie. it was heavily edited, but perhaps one day jayne can re edit herself and let the world know the complete story

  11. karian77 Says:

    I am not condoning such violence and evil that Stuart Horgan showed on the day he died, but in reading Jayne’s book ( which I thought was written beautifully I may add)
    Stuart had a lot of issues and like many men want to appear butch and councilling/therapy is for wimps.
    Given what he was told just prior to the incident which resulted in the death of his wife (whom he obviously adored) and her sister Emma and the attempted murder of Vicky’s mum Stuart in my opinion would have took any help avaliable.

    I am from a “normal” family background and have never been in a situation anywhere near similar to that Jayne found herself in, but I know!!! without a doubt, if anything even remotely similar happened to me, my brother would most likely do the same.
    Not because he is violent, my brother is not a violent man and had no criminal record whatsoever but he is very very protective over us.

    I would summise from reading the above the accusions above are nearer the truth but sparing the thoughts of her parents she changed the name.

    What does surprise me is the incident that happened between Stu and “graham” when he knocked the living daylights out him for hitting Jayne, surely one of their parents must have questioned the marks on him?

    I wish all the Horgan family my best and hope together or apart you find some sort of stable life xxx

  12. moodysam1968 Says:

    I have read Jayne’s book and it actually made me cry. So many similarities to my own life, but not the tragic end that Jayne had to suffer. I realised also that ‘Graham’ was Sean. Whilst it was painful remembering my own abuse, I cried at the desperation Jayne was feeling on the day that Stuart killed Vicky and Emma. I have a brother who is so like Stuart and the pain and panic that came across in Jayne’s book made me think of him and I couldn’t imagine how I would feel as those events unfolded that day. I’m going all out now to help him change his life and look after him. It’s just all so tragic and I feel for every single person involved – except of course ‘Graham’. I wish that Jayne was in the situation where she could make a formal complaint but I can imagine that when it’s so close to home, people just continue to get hurt and I think that the family have already suffered enough. After what happened with Stuart, I’m sure that earlier traumas can seem less important, yet they probably did start this chain of events. I have never met anyone involved in this tragedy, but the book touched me. And there is no doubt in my mind that it is true fact and I wish I could have the opportunity to talk to Jayne.

  13. yiddyboy Says:

    Firstly can I state how tragic an event this whole episode is. I don’t remember the killings in the news, and only became aware of them recently. Now for my reasons for posting.
    1) I felt moved to post when I read the comments on the page and saw how a page that was meant to be a memorial to people whole lost their lives tragically had descended into a slanging match. How do those posting these messages feel the dead would react if they were aware of them?
    2) And now for a positive. I am a serving Police Officer, and have recently become a trained Firearms Officer. As part of my training I was taught how to do an Emergency Entry on a building in a Firearms incident in order to save the life of a wounded person. Prior to this module being taught we were given an overview of why this training came about. Within the last year all Police Officers that carry guns in the UK will recieve this training. The NPIA (national policing improvement agency) pushed for all Armed Police Officers to be given this training largely as a result of investigations into what occured that terrible June afternoon. Hopefully there will never be a repeat of the mistakes the Police made that day and perhaps the bereaved can take some small crumb of comfort that the deaths have resulted in hundreds of Officers recieving improved training so that never again will any member of the British public wait needlessly if injured in a firearms incident.

    • tinyjayne Says:

      Hi , i just wanted to say I agree with all you have said. Time passes and we have to accept life has changed since that sad day we lost Vicky & Emma & Stuart. Although this will always hurt me and others, there is fact in what your saying, and that is our sadness will hopefully become someone else gain, in terms of the police, they have looked at the situation of that fatal day and will work differently to avoid it happening again. None of us will ever truly understand why the police didn’t act sooner, but we have to learn from this, and also take into account there was many factors around this at the time, one being my brother walking around with a loaded gun!!! its time to move on from blame and make positive change..
      This is a memorial site, and sadly Sean Horgan turned it into a place to attack me personally, its over now I went to the police in 2009 and in December 2010 he was found guilty of several rapes, I no Vicky is looking down and smiling, and im sure she will not mind things that have been wrote on hear, if it meant him being bought to justice, its something she wanted to happen, before that tragic day…
      I thank you all for defending me, it means so much, but please allow this site to be what it is now. A memorial site for our loved ones we lost…
      My final words is simple love holds no conditions, it doesn’t harm, or seek to destroy. Anyone going through domestic violence get help, its out there. Dont suffer in silence or think things will get better as so often they dont, and we have all read sadly the outcome in some cases. I loved my brother Stuart with all my heart, but I cant sit back a defend what he did that day, no one should. WE MUST LEARN FROM OUR SADNESS & TRY TO PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN AGAIN. X

  14. tallyho23 Says:

    Well i have read the book that Jayne has written and also i know Jayne, through her book. I dont agree with what stu had done, and I no for a fact Jayne herself didn’t either. I think it was horrible for both famlies to have to go through this and also for the children. As i feel for the sisters who lives were so wrongly taken i also feel for stuart who had such a tragic life and also feel for Jayne who went through such a bad ordeal what with that peado sicko who HAS now been found guilty, it seems he used a site to intimidate her personally, to hide his discusting crimes, yes she took him to court yes he was found guilty and yes he will be sentanced next week and get everything he deserves ……. This traumatic time falls on many lives , The babies of Vicky who lost their mother in such an horrfic way the parents of Vicky and Emma who lost their 2 beautiful daughters then there is jayne who lost her friend whom i know she loves so much and feels terrible for what happened on that terrible day but she also lost her brother stuart. Now i know a lot of you think he deserved it he belongs dead maybe thats how u all feel but it is not what his family may feel and then Jayne having to go through life with this daily and what she had endured as a child, touched in ways a child should never have been touched, a young girl should be able to look up to someone, she should of been protected, instead she was violated in a horrific way, there was no protection and he may serve time in prison but she will forever be haunted by her childhood her sentence is life… So maybe if everyone instead of all the hated words just consider both families then maybe they can all live in peace and remember those they lost in such a horrific way …… 1 last thing to the wife who thinks everyone is so dillusional…. who is the dilluded one now

  15. tallyho23 Says:

    A 46-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with nine sexual offences alleged to have been committed in High Wycombe during the 1970s and 1980s.

    Sean Horgan, of Bridge Court, Selby in North Yorkshire, was yesterday charged with seven counts of the rape of two girls under the age of 16.

    He was also charged with one count of gross indecency with a girl under the age of 16 and one charge of aiding and abetting the rape of a female under 16.

    All seven charges relate to offences carried out in High Wycombe between 1971 and 1981.

    Horgan will appear before Aylesbury Crown Court on Tuesday, March 30.

    Chief Inspector Colin Seaton said: “This man has been charged with a series of serious sexual offences following from an on going, protracted police investigation.”

    http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/5066631.Man_charged_over_1970s_sexual_offences/

  16. uncleb12 Says:

    I know this comment is a little out of date but as for anyones information i am a member of the Horgan family, and not just some randomer who has googled a name. I have known Stuart, Sean, Jayne and the other one (who has not been mentioned in any of this) all of there lives. I can honestly say that from a adult point of veiw through their child hood watching them grow up, it was very far from a happy and loving family. What Stuart done was totally unspeakable and unforgiveable but he still had family who loved him, he did have a dysfunctional life and i hope that he is resting in peace now and my heart goes to Vicky her sister all her family and more than anyone else i hope the children are ok and getting on as best they can. As for Sean and his “naive” wife Suzie of 4 and a half years have a look down below and tell sean not to drop the soap the dirty NONCE!!!

    A 46-YEAR-OLD man has been charged with nine sexual offences alleged to have been committed in High Wycombe during the 1970s and 1980s.
    Sean Horgan, of Bridge Court, Selby in North Yorkshire, was yesterday charged with seven counts of the rape of two girls under the age of 16.
    He was also charged with one count of gross indecency with a girl under the age of 16 and one charge of aiding and abetting the rape of a female under 16.
    All seven charges relate to offences carried out in High Wycombe between 1971 and 1981.
    Horgan will appear before Aylesbury Crown Court on Tuesday, March 30.
    Chief Inspector Colin Seaton said: “This man has been charged with a series of serious sexual offences following from an on going, protracted police investigation.”

  17. Stacey Lether Says:

    i have just read the book witch i thought was brillient i googled this out of curiosty im so glad he has been charged rot in hell and jayne you are an ispiration x

  18. suzih58 Says:

    I am the wife of the “hated” Sean Horgan…I had lots of good times with Sean…including our engagement party, with both his parents.I loved this man, and had no reason not to. He told me of Stuarts crimes… and I sympathised, but let it pass. It didnt affect me/us.. so let it be. I met Sean early in 2005…and married him in July of 2006.I was happy with him,had a good marriage, he worked long hours, so did I. As with any couple, in love I did try to defend Sean against the accusations that were made against him at the time- would’nt any devoted wife do that? I defended Sean to the max- to the hilt. I had no reason not to. I know we all have skeletons in our cupboard..me included. In no way do accept or condone what my husband did. I have spoken to Jayne many times. and she is a lovley person. Under different circumstances I think we could be friends. I understand your need for justice, your need to end her nightmare. I send my best wishes to all her family. I do not apologise for standing by Sean … thats what a wife does. To the Horgan family who made comments, I am not naive, I loved my husband.If I remember correctly you all got along… in his younger years. This post is not to defend my husband, or apologise for standing by him. Its just to say, I am glad justice has been served, as it should be. Love to all the Horgan family. Love to you Jayne and Nicky especially. Take care, embrace your new found freedom, and be happy. I think this nightmare should finally be over.xx

  19. peachymiss Says:

    Jayne, i am from melbourne australia and i bought your book in a bookstore. I just finished reading it. It made me cry and it was so beautifully written. It made me assess my own life, as i am in a violent, abusive relationship. After finishing your book i googled stuart and you and eventually cam accross this page. I can’t believe i’m actually messaging you, it feels quite surreal! I was shocked when i read that graham was really sean..i was glad to see he was punished for his heinous abuse towards you. I feel so heartbroken for poor vicky and her sister an mother and for your family, but also for stu. It’s all such a terrible tragedy. Vicky, you are an amazing women with so much courage and strength, you are inspirational and you are my hero. You story broke my heart but also gave me the strength to leave my abusive, violent husband after i saw stu in him. All my love and best wishes to you and your husband and children. You are so amazing. Love, michele.

  20. Jamie Dempsey Says:

    after reading jaynes book, i was determined to do some research into the background of her story. i have been shocked and amazed at the reality. you are a very courageous woman jayne! also after reading all these comments, it makes me smile to see that justice has been served. you should be very proud of your strength. all my love to you, your family, vicky and emmas families and all that have been affected. i would love to have an opportunity to chat with you.

  21. Deb Fisher Says:

    …and here it is!!!

    21 March 2011, 3:44 pm
    A man found guilty of raping and indecently assaulting two primary school girls when he was a teenager has been sentenced to ten years in prison.

    Sean Brian Horgan, aged 47, of Bridge Court, Selby, North Yorks, carried out the attacks on the girls, then aged five and eight, between 1977 and 1981 in High Wycombe, Bucks.

    Horgan was sentenced at Aylesbury Crown Court on Thursday (17/3) to five counts of raping a child and four counts of indecently assaulting a child.

    Thames Valley Police began investigating the historic case in September 2009 after his two victims came forward.

    Det Con Caroline Misselbrook investigated the incident. She said: “Horgan’s victims have shown tremendous strength of character in reliving the traumatic events they endured as children and withstanding the stress of the case going through the court process.

    “Both women have told me they are happy with the sentence Horgan received and I hope the lengthy term he has been given will serve to encourage other victims of sexual abuse to come forward in the knowledge we treat all cases, however old, with the same gravity.”

  22. Beck Says:

    I know it’s a few years later on this thread but I recently found out about Sean. I want everyone to know that I once witnessed Sean beating up his first wife after he came home from a long lorry trip. I know it wasn’t the first time either. That is all, moot point now as he’s in prison I just wanted people to know he wasn’t just interested in young girls.


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